Wade Michael Page's Band (End Apathy) interview with Alleged Wisc. ShooterAugust 6, 2012
This interview with End Apathy was conducted by Rick 56 in April of 2010 . Permission to reprint is granted as long as this statement with links to http://www.myspace.com/endapathyband, http://www.label56.com/ and http://uprisedirect.blogspot.com/are included. Mp3`s from End Apathy can be heard on the End Apathy my space as well as the Label 56 website
Good evening Wade, this interview is long overdue due to my own fault but with all the good stuff going on with your band now I don`t think the timing could be more perfect. I`d like to do this interview to let everyone know about End Apathy from the very beginning up until now. It was at least three years ago when I first got in touch with you after hearing your music on your my space page. Can you give the readers a quick background to End Apathy? More specifically- how long ago did you actually come up with the idea for End Apathy (and why you choose the name End Apathy) and start writing music for it?
End Apathy began in 2005 and the concept was based on trying to figure out what it would take to actually accomplish positive results in society and what is holding us back. A lot of what I realized at the time was that if we could figure out how to end peoples apathetic ways it would be the start towards moving forward. Of course after that it requires discipline, strict discipline to stay the course in our sick society. So, in a sense it was view of psychology and sociology. But I didn’t want to just point the finger at what other people should do, but also I was willing to point out some of my faults on how I was holding myself back. And that is how I wrote the song “Self Destruct”.
As you said End Apathy was entirely your own creation. What was your inspiration for wanting to do the band?
Yes, it was entirely my own idea. The inspiration was based on frustration that we have the potential to accomplish so much more as individuals and a society in whole.
The music you write is very clean sounding and to me has an oldschool 80`s California skate punk sound to it. Am I totally off base here? Lol. How would you describe your music and can you tell us why you choose to write in this style?
When I first started writing these songs I didn’t have a set plan on the style of sound, it just came together. I think it is mainly based on the mix of my influences and that is 80′s punk, metal, and Oi.
What kind of topics do you write about in your lyrics?
The topics vary from sociological issues, religion, and how the value of human life has been degraded by being submissive to tyranny and hypocrisy that we are subjugated to.
As mentioned you have been writing music for End Apathy over 5 years but until now it has been a solo project. I`m very happy you stayed persistent with it because I personally love the music style you create for the band. Your persistence has paid off as you now have a complete line up. Can you let everyone know what is going on with End Apathy now?
End Apathy as a band has taken a long time to develop, mainly because it was a one man project. But now there is a full line up with Brent on bass and Ozzie on drums – both from Definite Hate and 13 Knots. We have the luxury of living close to each other and are able to have practice often, as a result we are ready to record our first release which is a 7″ split with Definite Hate, then another song that we’re contributing to the UPRISE compilation and our full length CD will come out after that.
I`m really glad that worked out for you. Just in this short time you have already done a live show playing with Definite Hate and you guys are all practicing together. How long do you think it will be before we will see End Apathy on stage live?
End Apathy will be playing at the Independent Artist Uprise fest, but we will also be playing at some local clubs here in North Carolina and possibly playing the midwest this fall.
You guys are also getting ready to do some recording for both bands. Label 56 will be releasing a split 7″ this summer between End Apathy and Definite Hate. We are also planning to do your full length sometime early next year. Is there anything you want to let the readers know about these. What else do you guys have planned?
Even though End Apathy, Definite Hate, and 13 Knots share some of the same members each band has it’s own unique style and sound. Our main focus is the upcoming recording and playing shows.
Aside from your band I`d like the readers to know a bit about you. Not many people may be aware but you used to play with Youngland out in California before moving out to the east coast. How long have you yourself been involved in music and are there any other bands you have been involved with?
I had the opportunity to play bass with Youngland for 2 years back in 2001 – 2003 and during that time I filled in for various bands on guitar and bass including Celtic Warrior, Radikahl, Max Resist, Intimidation One, Aggressive Force, Blue Eyed Devils. I have been playing music since I was 13, off and on over the years.
Are you originally from out in California? How did you wind up moving from one side of the country to the complete other?
I am originally from Colorado and had always been independent, but back in 2000 I set out to get involved and wanted to basically start over. So, I sold everything I owned except for my motorcycle and what I could fit into a backpack and went on cross country trip visiting friends and attending festivals and shows. I went to the Hammerfest 2000 in Georgia, over to North Carolina, up to Ohio, down to West Virginia, and out to California and that’s when I joined Youngland.
What do you see as any differences between the east and west coast whether in the music scene or just lifestyle in general?
In some ways things are generally the same, but each area has it’s own unique style and traditions. Influenced by surroundings and events. The southeast is much more laid back and relaxed with more of a hillbilly attitude and that is reflected in the music. SoCal was more of a fast paced, tense environment and that definitely comes across in their music.
Well I`m glad you have made yourself a home out here and things are coming together for you. I hope to see End Apathy around and making music for years. The closing words are yours.
I want to say a big THANK YOU to everyone at Label 56 for believing in End Apathy and putting out our music!
.. .. .. We just finished recording for our upcoming release on Label 56, check back for release date!……….End Apathy began in 2005 with roots in old school hardcore punk and metal influences. The music is a sad commentary on our sick society and the problems that prevent true progress. Our first release will be a 7″ split with Definite Hate, then we will have one song on the UPRISE compilation, and our full length CD will be out later this year released by Label 56. The early recordings I did everything myself (songs currently posted), but now Brent and Ozzie from Definite Hate/13 Knots have joined End Apathy and we will be playing the UPRISE fest and a few other upcoming shows. So, check back on this page and the Label 56 myspace page/website for updates.
January 10, 2007
Wade – Vocals/Guitars….Brent – Bass…..Ozzie – Drums
Sabbath, Slayer, Maiden, DRI, COC, RKL, GWAR, GBH, Aggresion, Misfits, Bad Religion, Sick Pleasure, Exploited, Dayglow Abortions, Crumbsuckers, Cryptic Slaughter, Mike Watt, Innocent Addiction, Soak, BumKon, Burnt Fase, etc…
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The gunman in Sunday’s Sikh Temple shooting is a Colorado native who led a music group that has been classified as one supporting white-supremacist ideology. He was honorably discharged from the Army in 1998 after six years of service.
The 40-year-old Army veteran identified as the shooter inside an Oak Creek Sikh Temple on Sunday was a Colorado native who sang and played guitar in a band that may have had white-supremacist motives.
Wade Michael Page, who was residing in a rented duplex in Cudahy, appeared in 2010 in an interview on Label56.com — which the Southern Poverty Law Center identified as being a white supremacist website. The discussion focused around his band, End Apathy.
“I am originally from Colorado and had always been independent, but back in 2000 I set out to get involved and wanted to basically start over,” Page said in the interview. “End Apathy began in 2005 and the concept was based on trying to figure out what it would take to actually accomplish positive results in society and what is holding us back. … (My lyric topics focus on) sociological issues, religion, and how the value of human life has been degraded by being submissive to tyranny and hypocrisy that we are subjugated to.”
Among music posted on his MySpace page are songs titled, “Self Destruct,” “Usefull Idiots,” “GCPC,” “Submission,” and “Insignificant.” The MySpace page includes photos of Page. Fox6now.com also has a gallery of photos of Page.
According to the band’s bio on My Space, “End Apathy began in 2005 with roots in old school hardcore punk and metal influences. The music is a sad commentary on our sick society and the problems that prevent true progress.”
At least seven people have been confirmed dead, and three in critical condition at Froedtert Hospital. Page, who was armed with a 9-millimeter, semi-automatic pistol during Sunday’s shooting, according to CBSnews.com, was also shot and killed by a police officer during the incident.
Witnesses described the attacker ”as a bald, white man, dressed in a white T-shirt and black pants and with a 9/11 tattoo on one arm,” according to WPTV.com.
While no motive has been officially determined in the incident, officials have described it as act of domestic terrorism.
Sikh Indians, because of religious tradition, wear turbans to cover their uncut hair and have longer beards. They are often mistaken for Muslims and have been the targets of racially-motivated crimes by anti-Muslim people and groups.
A search on Wisconsin Court System Circuit Court Access shows no criminal — or even traffic — violation history for Page. According to BuzzFeed.com, Page pleaded guilty in 1994 to a Texas misdemeanor for causing criminal damage to property between $20 and $200. He also went by the last name Pierson.
His landlord, Kurt Weins, told the Journal-Sentinel he was surprised by what had happened.
“I had (Page) checked out and he definitely checked out,” Weins told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. “The cops told me they don’t want me to say nothing right now.”
The mother of the suspected shooter’s landlord told Patch the man police are investigating as the gunman was “quiet” and that he had just broken up with his girlfriend.
Page served 6 years in the Army he was discharged for “under honorable conditions,” according to Fort Bragg Patch, citing a Foxnews.com report. That is less than an honorable discharge but not as severe as a dishonorable discharge.
Officials at Fort Bragg on Monday “could not confirm” Page’s assignment at the psychological operations unit, where Fox News said he was placed, or at Fort Bragg.